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Nonconforming's avatar

What do moving averages look like? Even if the model is holding as a trend, it should not be surprising that there is not day to day precise accuracy, especially with smaller numbers

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Dr RollerGator PhD's avatar

91-divoc.com allows you to do a 7 day moving average. It's a steep incline at the moment.

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DC's avatar

Pfizer's own 6 month Safety and Efficacy study appears to agree that protection against death isn't a thing. See page 12 of the supplementary materials. Summary: 15 dead in the vax portion, 14 in the placebo (N ~ 22k for each side):

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.28.21261159v1.full.pdf

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.28.21261159v1.supplementary-material

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Princess Tatiana's avatar

Are some of these misses due to reporting timelines? For example, deaths actually occurring on Friday, Saturday and Sunday might be reported on Sunday.

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Dr RollerGator PhD's avatar

It is very possible - the predictions are a hard 14 days out, so if for some reason deaths on Monday are reported on Tuesday I cannot distinguish.

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Princess Tatiana's avatar

I wonder if there might be a regular spike on Sundays because that day is after religious observances on Friday and Saturday, when some people don’t use tech? I suppose it doesn’t matter much unless cuts in the study are made just before Sunday. Or?

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Jordan Pettet's avatar

At the very end, would you mind fitting a trendline to the Real Deaths?

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Dr RollerGator PhD's avatar

We will review the predictions and underlying details more fully in the near future.

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Princess Tatiana's avatar

What do you make of the idea that time between jabs is less than optimal in Israel while it is better I.e. longer in the UK? Of course, which vax was used is also generally different.

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Dr RollerGator PhD's avatar

Hard to say. Pretend instead of two doses to get you to 98% for a while with a decline of some kind over time, you had single doses semi regularly to keep you at 85% (or whatever the regular single dose would be). The difference would have to be thought out - modeling what would happen could be difficult. And those models could not match the reality of doing so.

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Ryan Skene's avatar

may only matter in so much as it pushed back the the timing of the vaccine degradation. so if the last shot was in May/June for most people in UK, the fall and early winter will be explosive.

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